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Skeptical Questions About Water Ionizers

Van der Waal water clusters
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Pure water can not be ionized?

Pure water only exists in a laboratory, distilled and de-ionized. "Pure" water is an electrical insulator. However, in nature, alkaline mineral water exists as an "ionic solution" containing, calcium, magnesium, potassium, and sodium, helping to provide a self-inducing electric circuit.Exit Site

Nature creates high quality drinking water that is alkaline and electrically charged.

Water flowing across a surface produces electricity.Exit Site In nature streams, rivers, and aquifers, churn and channel under pressure, yet water tends to stick to non-conductive, electrically grounded, surfaces such as rocks and fissures. The stretching force between the sticking and flowing molecules produce a range of naturally occuring electrostatic charge densities.

See also: Spring water electrically charged. and Water custers myth?

"Claims that "ionized" waters are antioxidants are untrue?

Reduced electrolyzed water has been shown to scavenge and neutralize active oxygen species called free-radicals. "Oxygen Reduction Potential," (ORP), determines a substance's redoxExit Site value, measured in milli-volts. Reduced water with a redox potential of -200 milli-volts or more, has the ability to donate hydrogen electrons to neutralize oxygen radicals while protecting DNA from damage. The study was published by the peer-reviewed journal, Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications.

Many other peer review journals have also published research studying the health effects of electrolyzed water.

Alkaline electrolyzed water research would never be accepted in main stream journals?

The "peer review" process does not rely on one person's opinion. Especially if that person is educated by an unrelated field of study. The peer-review process relies on the consensus of a group, educated in the same field they are reviewing, free of any financial ties to data outcomes.

The science publisher Elsevier offers a description, "Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications is the premier international journal devoted to the very rapid dissemination of timely and significant experimental results in diverse fields of biological research.

Elsevier continues, "The practice of peer review is to ensure that good science is published. It is an objective process at the heart of good scholarly publishing and is carried out on all reputable scientific journals. Our Editorial Board therefore plays a vital role in maintaining the high standards of Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications while ensuring that it retains the speed of publication necessary for a rapid communication journal." Site BioChemistry. Biophysics. Research. is currently indexedExit Site with the National Library of Medicine.

Drinking hypochlorites, present in most such waters, are in fact oxidizing agents?

Two entirely separate streams are produced at the same time, during water electrolysis. One is an alkaline antioxidant for drinking, and the other contains acidic oxidizing hypo chlorites, used for disinfections.

A typical water ionizer creates, 75% alkaline water and 25% acid water at the same time. Both waters have various properties, however, their respective uses could not be more different. The alkaline water is used as drinking water. Acidic water is used externally on the body, to water plants and to disinfect surfaces as a bactericide. The suggestion of drinking acid water is wrong.

Alkaline water is neutralized by stomach acid?

The alkaline tideExit Site phenomenon: When alkaline fluids are ingested, the stomach's parietal cells are capable of secreting high concentrations of hydrochloric acid. As a result, large amounts of bicarbonate is generated by carbonic anhydrase and must be removed from the cells to prevent alkalinization. The influx of bicarbonate into the blood after acid secretion can be detected and is known as the "alkaline tide." The health effects of acidosis and alkalosis are well documented.

"The pH of drinking water has zero effect on that of the blood or of the body's cells?

The consumption of alkaline drinking water has been shown to affect significant increases in both the blood and urine pH, 6.23 to 7.07 and 7.52 to 7.69, respectively, while showing a decrease in urine output from 2.51 to 2.05 liters per day.

A daily supplement of 596 mg of Ca through the consumption of 1 liter of High Calcium Mineral Water was able to lower serum PTH and the indices of bone turnover in postmenopausal women with a low Ca intake. High calcium mineral water could contribute to the repair of calcium deficiency and to the reduction of age-related bone loss in this population.

Dr. Apsely describes the health effects of "acid-base balance."

Why not just add baking soda and minerals to increase the pH and ORP of drinking water?

Having certain kinds of ionic minerals in water can be an affordable way to produce positive health effects. Minerals come in many forms, displaying a wide range of bioavailability.

Research suggests the transdermal migration of minerals through the skin.

pH and ORP:How does natural mineral water compared to "pure" water with added minerals?

This question requires continued exploration. Also, issues like synergistic mineral balancing, bio maker measuring, and individual requirements, need to be addressed. Ideally multiple measures of magnesium status including serum, erythrocyte, urine, dietary, ionized, and IV magnesium are measured.

Furthermore, how does the mineral bioavailability compare among these significant sources of minerals?

For example, according to a study published in the 2010 edition of the Bio Medical Central Research Notes, "the consumption of spring water led to an increasing trend in parathyroid hormone concentrations (PTH) while the PTH concentrations remained stable with the intake of the spring water supplemented with magnesium bicarbonate. PMID:2057939Exit Site This agrees with research showing various mineral forms having various bioavailable effects.

Which mineral forms are best utilized?

Results provided by the Department of Environmental Medicine, Göteborg University, in Sweden, suggest that "minerals taken in water are significant for the body burden, and that an intake of mineral water among persons with a low urinary excretion of magnesium or calcium may decrease the blood pressure. Further studies should investigate the extent of mineral deficiency in different populations and the efficiency of different vehicles for supplying minerals, particularly magnesium and calcium." PMID:15571635Exit Site

The benefits of mineral intake options can be debated, but the cost of intakes are more obvious.

Naturally occurring alkaline mineral water may be another example of how Mother Nature does not grant patents. However, mega corporations are actively working to takeover private ownership of community water rightsExit Site around the world.

As water becomes more controlled and costly, other methods of water collection may gain favor, such as condensing and collecting water from ambient humidity in the atmosphere, however this requires an extra cost of energy. See: Atmospheric Water Generator.

Water structure and clustering is a myth?

See: Water Clusters - Structured Water Research

Van der Waal Clusters

Equilibriums confirmed by Far infared VRT spectroscopy.




"The cyclic water pentamer appears to be a fundamental structure in the hydration of biomolecules." - K. Liu, J. Cruzan, J. Saykally

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Updated: Sept 16 2015